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Pilot opinions Fizz


Here you can read the opinion of Peter Müller about his first flights with his new Fizz SE (Aug.2018):


Dear Harald,


Thank you for sending FIZZ SE to the Alps. The shipment worked really well. The glider was packed in cardboard and arrived here without damage on Friday, so it probably took only two days. Respect for 5,80m and determined 43 kg gross weight. In the last few days there was a lot of flying weather on the Alps and I was able to test my new FIZZ SE under natural, partly very thermal conditions in the Allgäu Alps. In the meantime, I have made 6 takeoffs and landings, made innumerable thermal circuits and was in the air for almost 16 hours. I would like to give you some feedback, especially after your support and the season starting a little later:


Sail, construction and technology: The sail has become visually very beautiful, a real eye-catcher. Here in Oberammergau and Tegelberg some fly a "classic" Fizz, a number of towerless and of course the stare. When building it up therew was great curiosity of the fellow airmen and also envy of the beautiful wing clearly visible.


Trapeze corners and base: The new trapeze corners with the profiled speedbar seem to be very successful in terms of appearance and flow. The recessed grips in the base fit perfectly for my hands and arms. Even in high-speed flight and at crossings you can take the arms well to the body and then grips the base gently and aerodynamically in the middle of the rounding. Ergonomically, that suits perfect to me as a low-flying pilot.


Takeoff, landing, performance: The Fizz SE starts up exactly as I expected and experienced with my Twister and Spice. Easy to balance and handle, even with little wind it’s bearing fast. Love it! In the flying area familiar to me, the Fizz SE glides very well along the mountain profile. As felt and as expected with less loss of height than my previous device the last few years. Very fine! Light, delicate and central lift are instantly transformed into height without leaving the direction. Especially on my last flights, I have done some long gliding flights in moving, thermal air masses. I have analysed these flights - between 4km and 12 km with long valley crossings. It showed the gliding under realistic conditions with a glide ratio over 11, sometimes 12-13 –ie air movements and control impulse is very good! I think that's great and I increasingly trust to arrive high enough on the other side. I definitely dare to go further than before. The landing is expected to be widespread and prudent to choose. I expected that, because I wanted this wing because of the nice performance as well.


Thermal flying and rolling behavior: First and foremost: The FIZZ is rising very well. He reacts to the smallest air movement. I didn‘t like it at all times, especially at the beginning it was a bit exhausting. The reason is for sure also the new and (still) quite tight sail. Compared to my last glider with edge bow I had to relearn and I'm still on it. When flying into strong thermal or turbulent air, the FIZZ SE wants to be flown very attentively, because he wants "to do something with air movement" and thus sends clear signs to the pilot. If I was able to force my former hangglider with edge arch into the beard with little effort, once I fell out, it would not be a good idea to force the FIZZ around the "corner", because I'm just working against the supporting force which the incredibly powerful sail generates. The trick is to feel it before and not to let it come so far that you fall out. This, in turn, requires a very active pilot who knows how to handle speed and harness position, depending on the attitude and situation. And then the pilot will also be rewarded with a super rising wing and it becomes effortless and easy to handle. Just flying! Nevertheless, I keep more distance from dangerous lee side conditions and the bare rock walls than before. Maybe in the meantime  I just have more respect.


Settings: At the end of my third flight, after about 6 flying hours, I flew some Wingover with a large reserve of altitude, perhaps to stretch the sail a bit. Before the fourth flight I lowered the inner and outside sprogs inside by one turn and after the fourth flight also reduced the sheer batten tension by 360 degrees backwards. My impression is that the Fizz now rolls and circles better. He turns in neutral, I have to support neither in curves nor when "high-siding". That's how it should be. The VG is a real surprise for me. On the one hand, it is very smooth and effortless. In the meantime, I really like to use it, because the many different positions make clearly recognizable and noticeable changes to the wing behavior and thus actually make sense in the respective situations and conditions. There is not just "everything" or "nothing". Even with 100% VG the Fizz is still easy to control with the body in case the wing has to be corrected by restless air flow or a wind drift.


Conclusion: A very successful wing with its own characteristics. The Fizz wants to be attentively and sensitively flown and is rewarding you with an outstanding performance. It is a high-performance glider in a beautiful robe for the experienced pilot who frequently fly and want to enjoy the whole flight, definitely not for fresh pilots or small landing sites.

Pilot opinions Astir

Bo Frazier wrote on 13 October 2015:


I wanted to report my experiences in flying the Astir I purchased this summer.  I have had four mountain flights on the glider with each being for two hours or more.  The glider is a joy to fly.  I have been flying hang gliders for 35 years and have never flown a glider that handles as superbly as the Astir.  It truly is an effortless glider to fly.  I am able to stay up and climb in the lightest of lift and tiniest of thermals even though I am in the upper weight range for the glider with a body weight of 225 pounds.  The glider will almost thermal itself with just occasional inputs from me.  It's speed and glide also are excellent.  I'm not a competition pilot but just enjoy thermal flying and occasional cross country flights and the glider has no weaknesses in those areas of flight.  I could not be happier with my purchase of the Astir.  If anyone is looking for a fun to fly high performance glider, they need an Astir.

 Bo Frazier


Klaus Hoermann wrote on 17 April 2013:

Servus Harald,

 hab am letzten Sonntag meinen "Jungfernflug" mit dem Astir am Wank in Garmisch gemacht... Der Drachen ist super zu starten, die Tendenz, die lange Nase nach unten zu nehmen ist deutlich geringer, als bei den anderen Nasenspornern, die ich schon hatte. Das Segel steht Klasse und ich hab mich sofort zu Hause gefühlt, trotz starker Thermik mit Steigwerten bis 8m! Das Landen war auch einfach und ich war echt happy, nach der langen Winterpause auf diese Art und Weise in die neue Saison einsteigen zu können.

 Viele Grüße aus Oberbayern


Translation: Harald, had the maiden flight with my Astir last sunday in Garmisch... The glider is easy to launch; the tendency to drop the nose is much less noticeable than with earlier bowsprit gliders of mine. The sail is a beauty in flight, and I felt comfortable immediately, despite thermals of up to 8 m/sec! Landing was simple as well, and I was happy to be able to start the new season in this way, after the long winter break.

Greetings from Oberbayern


Oliver Sven Barth wrote from Brasil on 21 July 2011:

"Mein Astir fliegt wirklich fantastisch mit dem Minimum! Das nenne ich wahres Fliegen, also nochmal Danke für den schönen Vogel."

Translation: My Astir really flies fantastic with the Minimum! That's what I call real flying, so thanks again for this beautiful bird.

Pilot opinions Kite

Mike Thorn wrote on 10 October 2011:

"Let me say that I am very passionate about your glider. In 35 years of hanggliding I have flown over 25 gliders. I know when I am flying a glider that is special. That realisation came the moment I launched for the first flight in the Kite. It was truly love at first flight. We were merged together into a dance in the skies which felt effortless and exhilarating. She is my perfect partner in the air.

My confidence has increased and my flying has achieved a big leap forward in Europe with the Kite. I was flying with 2 top UK pilots in topless gliders and both in climbs and on glide I was easily a match for them. Whereas they were always worried about their landings I never had any concerns and achieved near perfect to perfect landings every time. I am now back in the UK and have flown the Kite with my Doodlebug and I have soared tiny dunes and sea walls with it. She can do it all so well!

The Kite is versatile, predictable, exhilarating and confidence building. I just wish I could find a woman that is all that!"


General: Wings for "Big Guys"

We are sometimes asked whether our hanggliders are suitable also for "big guys". Well, firstly, the Astir, Kite and Fizz are certified for hook-in weights of 115-120 kg. A report we received from Kite pilot Andreas shows that these wings, thanks to their high-lift capacities, do work in practice with such a loading:

Andreas Fuchs wrote on 8 April 2013:

Hallo Harald
im Dez. 2012 war ich mit meinem Kite BJ.2008 bei euch zum ersten Check.
Ihr habt ihn dabei mit der Aufhängung, dem Flügelrohrende und geändertem Segellattenprofil langsamer getrimmt. Habe ihn jetzt seit der Änderung das erste Mal im UL-Schlepp geflogen und bin begeistert!
Alle drei Landungen waren perfekt, der Zeitpunkt zum Drücken war eindeutig zu spüren.
Auch beim Thermikkreisen merke ich das der Trimm an der untersten Grenze liegt.
Die VG ist beim Start wie auch zur Landung eine Basislänge weit gezogen.
Mein Einhängegewicht liegt bei 110kg.

Tolle Arbeit von euch!

Gruß, Andreas Fuchs

English translation:

Hello Harald,

in Dec. 2012, I was in the bautek factory with my Kite (manufactured 2008) for the first check. You made the trim quite a bit slower (hang point, sail tension, batten profile). Now I have aerotowed the glider for the first time after the trim change - I was excited!

All three landings were perfect; the right moment for flaring was clearly noticeable. When I was thermalling, I also felt that the trim is at the slower end.

For launching and landing, the VG was pulled by one base-bar's length. My hook-in weight is 110 kg.

Great work! Greetings, Andreas Fuchs

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